APIS Petition to keep top bar hives
Otto Hyink
otto.hyink at otago.ac.nz
Wed Oct 26 13:30:10 NZDT 2011
Please sign at below website if you'd like to see top bar hives kept legal.
http://www.petitiononline.co.nz/petition/the-right-to-bee/1348
Cheers,
Otto
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From: Otto Hyink [otto.hyink at xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2011 1:06 p.m.
To: Otto Hyink
Subject: Fwd: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:24:06 +1300
From: <info at greenurbanliving.co.nz>
To: Otto Hyink <otto.hyink at xtra.co.nz>
Hi Otto, Started a petition, can you forward to all contacts or interested
people. Everything will help. Will start some serious PR in next couple of
weeks when I get back from NY after marathon.
http://www.petitiononline.co.nz/petition/the-right-to-bee/1348
Cheers, Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: Otto Hyink
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:45 PM
To: info at greenurbanliving.co.nz
Subject: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
Sorry - my mistake. Doesn't mention wooden - "...contain frames that
surround the comb" is the wording.
On 24/10/11 8:14 PM, info at greenurbanliving.co.nz wrote:
> "completely inside a wooden frame" what about all the plastic frames out
> there? he he
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Wise
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:46 PM
> To: info at greenurbanliving.co.nz
> Subject: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
>
> Haven't been made illegal yet. From what I can gather the AFB PMS is
> overdue a review and submissions for this closed last year (read the
> letter from David Carter to Rex Baynes also in the Beekeeper). MAF is
> hoping to get around to it by June 2012. They are looking to sneak
> changes in wording to the PMS into review this that would make only comb
> completely inside a wooden frame legal. Not so sure they can do this
> unless it was part of the submissions last year which I doubt. Means we
> need to kick up a stink which will get noticed by MAF.
> Have a read of the magazine when you get it.
>
> Cheers,
> Otto
>
> On 24/10/11 1:53 PM, info at greenurbanliving.co.nz wrote:
>> Hi Otto, i am still waiting to received my magazine. This is all very
>> disappointing. Have they really made Top Bar hives illegal?? Get back to
>> you when I read the full article.
>>
>> Cheers, Janet
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Otto Hyink
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:48 PM
>> To: info at greenurbanliving.co.nz
>> Subject: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
>>
>> Hi Janet,
>>
>> I apologise for not getting the information. I have asked many times but
>> it obviously was not a priority for Cris and Burt who did recording!
>>
>> I received my October 'Beekeeper' today and it outlines the MAs
>> position. Seems a very silly position to take.
>>
>> For me the much more sensible approach would be to some sort of clause
>> in the DECA where people declare that they own a TBH and state how they
>> inspect it for AFB. By making them illegal the only thing the MA is
>> likely to achieve is that people will NOT register their TBH and hide it
>> so that it is very difficult to spot. This would be very
>> counter-productive for the AFB-PMS.
>>
>> I would also be pretty keen to see their evidence for TBH being such an
>> AFB risk, for this is obviously what they believe to be the case. If
>> they genuinely pose such a risk then there should be stats to back this
>> up. How many TBH have been found robbed out after succumbing to AFB? I
>> would be very surprised if the number was a long way above zero but am
>> happy to make a call after I see the stats.
>>
>> I find the position the MA has taken seriously flawed. To suggest
>> keeping a TBH is against the spirit of the biosecurity (AFB PMS) Act
>> 1998 when they are readily inspectable for AFB is uninformed and silly.
>>
>> My personal belief is that the MA rushed to a decision when they caught
>> wind of people keeping TBH without actually knowing much about them.
>> Going back on that decision would make them look a little silly and put
>> a dent in the egos of those who made that decision and this is where the
>> problem lies.
>>
>> Where to from here?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Otto
>>
>> On 27/9/11 5:20 PM, info at greenurbanliving.co.nz wrote:
>>> Hi Otto, Any luck getting some direct quotes from the session? I have
>>> emailed other top bar beekeepers who are feeling outraged. I know of
>>> many people who responded by email to Rex Baynes but did mention to me
>>> that they got no reply/response from him.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Janet
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Otto Hyink
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:55 PM
>>> To: info at greenurbanliving.co.nz
>>> Subject: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
>>>
>>> Rex did no talking on this subject, just Frans. My Dad (Gerrit Hyink) is
>>> going to look into who we might need to talk to at MAF as it seems that
>>> the NBA/Management Agency is not prepared to listen to the people they
>>> represent.
>>> Will get back to you if I can get hold of the coverage.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Otto
>>>
>>> On 25/9/11 8:50 PM, info at greenurbanliving.co.nz wrote:
>>>> thanks Otto, i, like you requested to teh Beekeeper magazine a right
>>>> of reply to Frans Lars Article and was also denied. Save Our bees has
>>>> met with Frans and Rex and as Stakeholders we forwarded our desire to
>>>> work together with this perceived problem. I know for a fact that many
>>>> people have contacted Rex with emails stating their views on top Bars
>>>> so this again appears to be a outright lie if he is stating that there
>>>> has been little response from backyard beekeepers.
>>>>
>>>> Would be very interested in seeing your video?
>>>>
>>>> If you can get me some firm quotes from the meeting I will give
>>>> everyone on my next newsletter ( around 4000 people) a heads up.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Otto Hyink
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:37 PM
>>>> To: info at greenurbanliving.co.nz
>>>> Subject: Re: Otago/Southland Field day
>>>>
>>>> Please go ahead and place this on the forum. Feel free to put my name
>>>> on
>>>> it. A friend of mine actually filmed much of todays meeting so I'm
>>>> going
>>>> to try to get a hold of that so that I can actually quote Frans on what
>>>> he said.
>>>> As far as I am concerned, there has been absolutely no consultation
>>>> with
>>>> levy payers on this. How can changes be made to legislation without
>>>> consulting the people who are affected?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Otto
>>>>
>>>> On 25/9/11 8:03 PM, info at greenurbanliving.co.nz wrote:
>>>>> Hi Otto, this is all news to me. Do you mind if I put this on the
>>>>> forum so that other beekeepers are aware? I will write to the
>>>>> management agency as I have met with them and urged them to form a
>>>>> consultation group on this subject if they have any concerns.I do know
>>>>> that many top bar hive beekeepers have emailed and written stating
>>>>> their views on the subject. Thank you for the heads up!
>>>>> Cheers, Janet
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Otto Hyink
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:47 PM
>>>>> To: info at greenurbanliving.co.nz
>>>>> Subject: Otago/Southland Field day
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Janet,
>>>>>
>>>>> I attended the spring field day in Lawrence for Otago and Southland
>>>>> beekeepers today. I had noticed Top Bar Hives were on the agenda so
>>>>> was
>>>>> interested to see what would be said. I was surprised to hear that the
>>>>> Management Agency are effectively trying to rush through some
>>>>> amendments
>>>>> to the rules that would definitively make TBH illegal in New Zealand.
>>>>> Apparently the proponents of TBH have not put up a convincing argument
>>>>> as to why they should be allowed.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I am aware we have barely been consulted. My Dad (who has
>>>>> been
>>>>> a commercial beekeeper in NZ for more than 25 years) and I wrote an
>>>>> article for the Beekeeper after Frans Laas wrote in his column of the
>>>>> April edition about TBH. He made a 'call' for discussion on the topic.
>>>>> Our article was fairly basic and we were trying to explain the concept
>>>>> of a TBH and how it works. It was flatly rejected from being published
>>>>> (we were told Frans had already written an article for the beekeeper).
>>>>>
>>>>> My concern is that legislation is going to be changed without any
>>>>> proper
>>>>> consultation process being carried out. It seems TBH advocates need to
>>>>> get a bit more vocal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Otto Hyink
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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